Product Description
Carbonbird 30g Motor - 3 set - for 3S 0845 props
Description:
We have developed these NEW motors 120w motors specifically for indoor 3S multicopters - 275mm 24AWG silicon wires right from the core windings. Multicopters control their flight by rapidly changing RPM every few milli-seconds - so the Carbonbird motor is light weight and uses a light weight prop and prop adapter. These NEW CarbonBird Motors are custom wound copper packed in tight to give a kva of 1220ka. This makes them work well on 3S 12.4v using a 0845 slow fly prop. Importantly - We also specified German Zen™ miniature metric bearings for long lasting flight Ops (after many similar HK motos failed on us after a few short flights).
Features:
- Nipple Pink/Red colour as per photos
- True 120w motor made for Multicopters
- Superior windings 27Turns 12N14P, 1220kva for 3S 0845 Props - LiPo Ops
- Full 275mm 24AWG multicore wires
- Superior Zen™ bearings - Made in Germany
- Light weight - faster RPM changes
- Designed for SCARAB engine mounts
- reversible shaft - 2nd spare shaft 3.17mm
- 5mm prop shaft (up to 10mm thick prop) / conical nut
- 16.5mm and 19mm mounting holes M3 bolts - 3.5mm bevel supplied
- Motor X-Mount supplied for 33mm holes
- Works at Low/Medium timing with HobbyWing (aka Turnigy Plush) ESC
Dimensions:
- 28 diameter x 18mm h ; 3.17mm shaft 1/8th inch
Power Tests & Recommended Props:
- 3S 0845 props - 1/2 throttle 3.3Amps ; WOT 10.2Ap, 124Wp (2200 3S 40C LiPo - HobbyWing Flyfun 10A ESC Low timing)
- Not suitable for 4S - this is 30g engine optimised for 3S
Includes:
- 3 x CarbonBird Motors with 275mm wires ; 3 Prop-adapters ; 3 X-Mounts ; 12 x M3 screws ; 3 x spare 3.17mm (1/8") x 46mm shafts; 3 spare circlips ; 3 spare bronze bush
Requires:
Button head bolts M3 for SCARAB mounts not included - available here
Setup & Maintenance:
- This is not a toy - Aviation requires discipline, inspection and risk analysis - Multicopter motors form part of the critical aircraft flight system and become your duty of care when purchased and built.
- If a motor fails the Copter can fall from the sky and cause harm to person or property below - Always do a full pre-flight inspection on the motors ; A post flight temperature check for thermal stress (hot motor)
- Schedule of maintenance you must perform includes : -
- Remove and add Blue Loctite® to the shaft grub screw - make sure Loctite® does not enter any bearing!
- Ensure the Circlip is set (crimped) correctly to hold the shaft in place - inspect closely for any sign of looseness
- Carefully apply 1 small drop of OIL to each bearing every 5 hours flight time - with a syringe & needle (new SAE20-50 motor oil) - allow the oil to soak in for 1 min; wipe away all excess oil - oil traps abrasive dust!
- Avoid all dusty Landing/Takeoff zones - We recommend Ops from a dust-free rooftop LZ on a 4WD/SUV vehicle or a 1.5m circular plywood dust-free Helipad on the ground to prevent any dust ingress to the bearings. Abrasive dust entering bearings will shorten the effective life dramatically - inspect the bearngs for wear and replace if worn -Spin the motor - Magnetic cogging will slow and stop the motor which is normal - check for any wear or abnormal sound/roughness/dryness or non-linear friction indicating a bearing failure.
- Use high pressure air (can of comressed air - or air line) to clean any sand,dust, grass or dirt away from an engine after every flight
- Inspect the wires to ensure the insulation is in-tact
- Check that the collect (Prop-adapter) is tight and cannot be pulled off with 2kg force - Dont assume it's tight - check it in Pre-flight
- Use Blue Loctite® to mount the engine screws to the carbon/G10 engine holder. Check the engine mounting screws never penetrate too far into the engine & short the winding wires
- Inspect the prop for any fatigue cracks or white stress lines - immediately repalce any prop suspected of weakness - Routinely replace props every 10 flight hours.
- Shaft must be replaced if bent - using a 3mm punch and tapped out - or shaft can be reversed by removing the grub screw and using a bench vise to push it further in and out the other side - then retighten the grub screw
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if the motor is observed to be showing some initial warning sign - AN INDICATOR - noted by the pilot but not considered to be a risk by the pilot - and he decided to continue flight ; consider fully the RISK ; this can cause subsequent engine failure and total loss of your aircraft if it has less than six engines. Be aware -
the most common causes of engine failure are
- ingestion of FOD (foreign object damage) dirt, dust, stones or debris which can enter the motor during take off and landing - causing trauma (cuts) to the windings or insulation of the windings, damage to bearings
- breakage of one or more of the internal lead-in stator winding wires by stress (pulling of the wires during ground handling or assembly) - can be caused in incorrectly handling a motor, crash impact tension, carry the craft by gripping the motor assembly wires causing a break inside a motor.
- magnetic variation - de-magnetising of one or more magnets by placing the magnets on or against other motors/magnets or in magnetic fields - tapping against metal objects of the can of the motor - this partial de-magnetisation can cause the ESC to overheat the engine because the timing cannot be accurately determined by the ESC. Thermal run-away - engine overheats because it is effectively overloaded - Copter is too heavy. Overheated magnets are permanently ruined.
- dry-joints or inconsistent loose push-connections/soldering between an ESC and a motor leading to timing faults - if one of the three connections is loose or not 100% soldered correct - Should you observe ANY motor hesitation or stutter on first power applied 10% throttle - immediately cut power - do not Power-up further or you will blow the ESC - DO NOT FLY especially relevant for long wiring runs or self soldered joints - USE solder paste - use a Digital Multimeter DMM to check all 3 wires show the same Resistance in ohms - check the wires for breakage or shorts. Save your ESC by careful observation of problem indicators.
- Shorting of any motor wire(s) internally to the metal/carbon booms or too the airframe- INSULATION of ALL WIRES annd joints is vital. - short of the insulation from sharp carbon edges not filed smooth during construction - leading to timing problems or stuttering - Should you observe ANY motor hesitation or stutter - DO NOT FLY - replace the motor /wires/ESC as applicable to the fault - Beginner fault to observe AN INDICATOR - such as hestition then continue to fly - delibrately blowing the ESc - leading to failure and a crash - Pro-Pilots discontinue flight/Land at the slightest hint of a problem - because they realise that warnings are only given once.
- Poor bearing maintenance lubrication and/or exposure/ingress of abrasive dust leading to bearing breakdown
it's VITAL to monitor the temps of all engines on the post-flight check, avoid operations where FOD. dust is a risk and keep motors padded in transport. It is also recommend to ground the aircraft and 100% locate the cause of any abnormal performance item.
Notes:
- NEVER fit the propellers to a motor until AFTER you have fully Tested and set-up the motor and YOU understand that electric motors can start suddenly without any warning. With proper understanding and maintenance the motors are safe.
- NEVER run a propeller without FIRST balancing it on a magnetic balancer
- Do a staic and a dynamic balance of all props for best results
- Do a hand Maiden - before any flight maiden; to observe all engines running normally under power applied condition - and all controls responding correctly.
- During the hand maiden feel the airframe for vibration levels - there should be none - smooth - vibration indicates an out of balance motor/prop and must be traced and balanced.
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Tips
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Follow the building guide carefully - allow at least three days to complete the project. Measure twice - cut once.
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MultiWiiCopters are nearly twice as efficient as a RC Helicopter providing the props are matched to the ESC and engines.
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6 x 10amps is 60amps continuous power (72amps peak if your 40C lipo can cope) this is massive on 4S -
your HEX will be climbing like a interception rocket - You do NOT need 18Amp ESCs - it's a common mistake
with multi engine ops - especially 6 engines to go past the humble 10Amp Turnigy ESC - these things are
perfect - in the hover the ESC is running at about 3.5amps on a HEX. You don't need the extra weight of a HEX.
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Recommended props are - 4S 9050 Triples with 65g 775kv CarbonBird motors available on this site to
give a large amount of slow moving downwash. In the hover the throttle should be 1/3 to 1/4 maximum. The HEX
is very powerful
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Use a magnetic-balancer to balance all props statically;
then run them individually to check they are centred true and the tipshave the same path; any vibration will reduce
the effectiveness of the Wii gyro or anyother gyro.
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Never screw/glue or bolt the Wii Motion+ to the board - use good quality FOAM TAPE. Make sure the wires to the WM+
are soft, curved and not tight.
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For Aerial Photography do not use an ESC to power the Vcc line. Use a seprate independant
switching BEC and solder the Vcc and GND lines to the
board. Select 5v. Note the MCP1825S has a maximum Vcc of 6v.
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Keep your PROPS OFF -
not installed - until you are fully conversant/understand in full the functions of your Tx in full including
TRAV (end Points), the arm and disarm procedures - realise that for a noob skiping or out-of-order set-up
steps or moving sticks, or even static - PROPS may start at
anytime without warning. Never install props prior to calibration of the ESC and testing
the gyro orientation, and arm/disarm testing of the board - YOU are responsible - make sure your actions
and your Copter is safe - remove the prop -remove the risk.
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Always maiden on default PIDs' - If the copter is not almost perfect on default PID's then DO NOT go straight to
altering the PID's! MultiwiiCopters require good quality ESCs such as HobbyWing® or turnigy Plush® (Not
SuperSimple) then do full calibrations of all the ESCs, the correct timing set/programmed into the ESCs and
lastly good quality wiring and soldering (not short 3.5mm press fit connectors) -
Use FLUX PASTE to complete all soldered wires.
Safety in Australian Skies
- Keep more than 30m from persons,choose an empty sports field for your first flights
- Do not fly near pets, houses or cars
- Never fly within 3nm of an airfield or above 400ft
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Never install your props until after the Multicopter is fully tested and 100% correct without props. Engines can start
suddenly and without warning IF YOU FAIL to understand how they work or skip any steps.
- Set your Tx/Rx binding to low throttle 1/4 position so that if the link is lost the copter will descend slowly.
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Always keep your Copter in line of sight for one pilot ops - FPV is only legal in AU with a buddy on a buddybox -
2 person FPV is 100% legal using the buddybox system below 400'. See CASA Part 101 Regs
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RC Flying is a privilege - please enjoy it. Don't show off and don't get over confident
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Home movies are fine, but in Australia professional paid photography or videos from an RC aircraft requires
CASA Part 101 compliance, including exams and approved ops manuals and pilot competency tests by CASA official
which will cost several thousand up front.
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